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 Post subject: A call for seeds
PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 11:22 pm 
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We need more seeds please (points of first contact for new users). There are five in total built into Streamer at the moment, only two of which are actually working now.
Being a seed means you will get a very light rain of UDP packets from users starting Streamer for the first time, or after a long time inactive. It is actually very little bandwidth.
You can either have a fixed IP, or use a domain name. You don't need to be online all the time either.
New seeds won't be used until the next version of Streamer is published, which could be a while, since I am adding something big to it ;-)


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:26 am 
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Hi,
i know i mentioned it already:
if there is a command line 'seed' for linux i can run one (fixed ip, low latency, 24/7) somewhere in Germany

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I am interested if there is for Linux too. So I'll provide near my German brother.


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A seed is comprised simply of a copy of Streamer running on a known IP address that it programmed into the code. That's all. It's not a different program. Both of my casters are seed hosts. :)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:10 am 
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KMeat wrote:
A seed is comprised simply of a copy of Streamer running on a known IP address that it programmed into the code. That's all. It's not a different program. Both of my casters are seed hosts. :)

Yes i know 8) The Problem is that i have to run the seed under linux. A windows server license is too expensive. Linux is preinstalled with no extra charge. It's not home hosting on my dsl line. The server runs in a colocation. I don't have xwindow or wine on my servers so i can't emulate windows. And i need the possibility to control the seed over a ssh console session.
And streamer doesn't run stable under wine. On two machines i tried it out streamer crashes after a while (few hours).

I think it's a important step to have a linux version of streamer. I talked to some commercial radio stations and they run streaming servers under unix, linux, solaris.

A command line version with a config file (which you can edit with any editor) and able to run as a daemon process.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:25 am 
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Iain,
Should a seed have a fix IP or could it be a dynamic IP (using dyndns for example) ?
I still can't decide to rent a Win server as I don't know if Streamer will run on it...


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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 5:29 am 
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>spot is online at 66.146.137.26:8466


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I'd like to help if I may. I have a domain name for my station being www.planetradio.us and www.theboxmusicnetwork.com and they are routed to my dynamic IP but its kind of like NO-IP it updates on its own so the domains are always up online! And my StreamerP2P is more then half of the time online since PlanetRadio.us runs 24 hours a day and 7 days a week. :)


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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:00 am 
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Cheers, I'll add it to the install, the activex, and the seeds.txt.


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Is it possible to simply associate a screen name logged on with being a "seed"? Then if I for example sign on, it registers me as being logged in, not some IP address.

If so, then it is just a matter of being signed on, which would be so difficult. You just sign on when you aren't using the bandwidth your ISP gives you (like before going to bed).


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:24 am 
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I mean "wouldn't be difficult", sorry tried to edit the post but couldn't find any edit option.


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It's really just a matter of having a running copy of Streamer. A static IP is preferred.

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I think screen names should be preferred. It is the honest and fair thing to do. When you are able to "seed", you sign on with a designated screen name. You could be on any ISP service and help out.

If you were on static IP, then I sense the potential you would be "seeded" at times you didn't want to see. Do you see what I mean? Each person volunteering to seed should have a "seed off" option. Using a screen name is an ideal way, you could sign on with "NameSEED" when you are available and "Name" when you aren't able to seed.


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If you are not going to be a seed all the time, there's not much point in you being a seed in the first place. However, It's easy enough to do what you are talking about simply with another copy of Streamer configured for a different port as the port is part of being a seed. Seeds are used to keep the network going and to make sure that it's there for people connecting new.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:48 am 
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gnmarcus, you misunderstand how seeds work.
They are a first point of contact to users who don't otherwise have any valid IP's in their hosts list at all. All these users have is some seed IP's to try and connect to in order to gather more IP's of current users. These users cannot know anything about screen names, or not currently being a seed status, or anything else at all about the network, because they have not yet made contact with any part of the network.
All they can possibly know is some IP's to try and connect to, and these are the seeds that are hard coded in streamer, or in the seeds.txt file. Knowing any other dynamic information at all would require a preceeding connection to the network, which there cannot be because the seeds represent points of initial contact with the network.
Being a seed doesn't generate any noticable traffic anyway.


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