Streamerp2p Forum

I CAN'T LISTEN TO HOWARD. I USED TO BE ABLE TO AND THE OTHER DAY IT WORKED, BUT NOW IT SAYS ERROR INITIALIZING OUTPUT. It also says ActiveX is not enabled- then I agree to enable it and it still doesn't let me listen.
Any advice?

I assume you're using WINE under linux???

I am and I had to change my audio hardware acceleration using winecfg and set it to "emulation"

If you are not using WINE then it looks to be a problem with your sound card

Can you please post your set up/enviornment?

I would presume 'Stern listener with dodgy caps-lock key' != 'linux user'

The error is coming from the audio player that is trying to play the stream (is it winamp? or streamer itself?), and it probably means you are receiving ok. But either the sound system on your pc is broken, or another program is using the sound output on your pc and streamer/winamp can't share it at the same time.

Test if the sound works at all with any program that makes sounds, and try closing all the other open programs except streamer and see if it works then.

If after a while Streamer repeatedly shows 'reseeking source' in it's titlebar, it could mean there is something odd on your net connection that makes large blocks vanish. The stream data is large blocks, the background traffic that Streamer talks to other streamer with is small blocks. I have seen this peculiar bug ocasionally.

I received this error while using streamer in WINE on my fedora 4 box.

I then ran it in a terminal to view the WINE debug information. And the was spewing some crap about underrun protection blah blah and actually told me how to fix the problem.

Open winecfg and under the audio tab change Hardware acceleration from 'Full' to 'Emulation'. Once I did that the sound immediately started to play so I'm sure it was that that fixed the problem. However it was a bit dodgy so I had to do some adjusting with my sound card to get the wine sound emulation to work well. (it sounded like a scratched cd).

I could post the error.txt but i'm too lazy. Just imagine that it agrees with what i just typed.

Hi,
the internal player is not functioning properly using wine here on my system. I use xmms and point it to streamer
localhost:8000/streamermp3.mp3
localhost:8000/streamerogg.ogg
That always works I only get some wine warnings about window titles can't be set or something. Duno what window titles cause they are all there.

I tried that initially as well.

However when I start up xmms and point it to
http://localhost:8000/streamerogg.ogg
then streamerp2p immediately stops streaming and therefor xmms plays about 10 seconds and then shuts off. If i hit play again on xmms it streams as expected. I have to do this everytime streamer lags, which gets annoying
I also don't like it because you must keep streamer running in the background.

I just think its an extra layer that you shouldn't need. You're using two programs to do the job of one. But i guess after awhile you get used to wacky work arounds with linux.

Streamer is necessary for the p2p network to receive the stream. It does have it's own built in player as you know. It just doesn't work yet under Linux so you have to use another player.

It is remarkably difficult to get a computer to do an entirely new thing without actually running a freaking program that performs this new task!. If you ever acheive this feat, patent it immediately and make a fortune. (and stealth installers don't count in this challenge).
Shoutcast(unicast) stations may well allow you to listen without an 'extra' program, but with shoutcast it is not possible to broadcast to 500+ people from an ordinary home broadband connection either. 500 listeners will cost you upwards of $200/month. So your ever so slightly easier to listen to stations can not be done for large audiences by poor bedroom DJ's. And once Streamer is installed (extra 2 clicks needed), listening to any station takes one click on a web link, exactly one, no more or less than listening to a unicast stream with winamp. Why is this not good enough?

Why should not you need it?. How would you, as a programmer, acheive virtually free and unlimited listener broadcasting such as Streamer offers, without running any code?. You are running 2 programs to do the job of two. Streamer receives and relays raw stream data, winamp/(etc) plays it.

I think I have been misunderstood.

I was trying to say tha when using streamerp2p under windows you are able to achieve both tasks of listening and broadcasting. When using streamerp2p or any other WINDOWS ONLY program through some emulation like WINE/VMWARE/etc. on linux you often have to do extra work arounds to get the same result as that in a native windows enviornment.

I wouldn't knock streamer. It does a great job at what it's designed to do. Stream radio in a windows environment. If anything I was throwing a little jab at linux by stating that workarounds are usually required if you want to acheive the same goal as with windows.

The fellow above my last post was using XMMS as a "work around" because streamer's built in player through WINE was "not functioning properly". I was just letting him know that he CAN use the built in player successfully if he configures WINE's audio correctly. But if he chooses to use XMMS for whatever reason, whether it be easier or more familiar for him, then that is his perogative.

Sorry for the rant, the 'I want to listen without streamer' requets get to me sometimes

griffindj, we appreciate your participation in the forum. As with Iain, we've heard that so many times 'why can't you do something with nothing' that it sometimes makes yer head spin. Please accept our apologies. It's all good.