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I have tried this yet AGAIN today,
7 times, and each time stopping and restarting my stream. letting it run then begin trying to tune from the website ICON.

i was online with a friend from the the other coast, he tried 6 or 7 times as well.
My stream will NOT tune from the icon on the streamer website.
Gilligan, Doc and ZYron have also experienced this when attempting to tune my stream.

its getting to be re-goddamdiculous, I turn on a stream today, and in less then 3 tracks I am exhausted with the "One problem after another".

Kmeat tried this the other day and said it in fact tuned, If this is so, why cant I tune my own stream or anyone else for that matter?

I am speaking of tuning ONLY form the streamer website,
YES active X is installed it worked fine up untill about a month ago...
and YES the others trying t tune have active X and streamer installed into there PC's...


Hopefully the NEW FIXED release I have heard about might solve this,
If not I am DONE with this foolishness.

IF you let it sit, it will eventually tune. Version 1.44 has a bug in it that in a lot of cases is causing a copy of Streamer to ignore it's own requests for data from other Streamers. This will in fact be fixed in the next version.

Thanks for the Response KMEAT, i kinda figured that form our conversation yesterday.

Kmeat = A great source for tip top TECH HELP!

There is a bug in Streamer at the moment with connectivity from LAN's.
But there is also a possible problem with the court case in the US brought against micro$oft by a patent para$$$ite company, which ruled that activex was a patent violation, and to which microsoft responded by disabling automatic activex in it's latest 'security' (hahaha) update.
You apparently see a 'click here to run' or something over disabled activex widgets on web pages.

Thank you for the REPLY Iain,
I dont understand the last part of your post,
AS I have not Downloaded ANY MS updates in Monthes,
ONLY Acquired the way around its WGA validation security,
**BUT*** didnt streamer PAY for the ACTIVE X , or Digital signing??
If so we (streamer community) is getting SCREWED! again.

BUt again thank you for the response,
I can wait for the newer version release,
its summer and many other things going on..

microsoft have been forced, due to losing a court battle, to force a user to click an activex control and force it to run, rather than it just running as it previously did.
Having paid for a digital signature, does not mean that this is circumvented, they are not the same.

As for being screwed, theres no need for the (streamer community) bit... if this issues makes you think anyone was screwed, then everyone who runs microsoft software was screwed... not just the streamer community.

See here for more info http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/12/05/ie_tweaks/ and http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/30/uspto_upholds_eolas_patent/

I cant say Ive had too much trouble tuning any of the streamer stations via the activex control, those that I couldnt get onto, I couldnt reach using the full streamer application.

Thanks for the response (af)
I guess we have another Case of Selective reading or Comprehension.

I stated I believe "IF THIS IS THE CASE" then we are screwed,
It apparently isnt,
as the digital signing is not the same as the Active X or,
better yet "THE BUG" that this is apparently effecting.. ie: preventing MYSELF or a few others from tuning MY STREAM, from the web site..

**LOVE THE CAPS**

It/ This tuning thing, from the site is not a regularly occuring thing. Nor does it seem to happen to many others,

and yes my "BIT" stands!

Hmmm I'm updated to the max and I get no prompt to run my activeX control once it's installed. The update that caused you to have to click to say it was ok or trusted to run the Streamer activeX or any other happened a long while ago. Now I can't speak for Vista as I just got the preview and am starting to play with it and IE7 which is included.

I was only trying to help.. by telling you about the M$ thing.. no need to be sarcastic...
Sheesh..

And dont insult me man.. I comprehended your post fine thank you very much.

I wonder how many other people are turned off streamer due to the chat room(s) and increasingly this forum, being full of self rightous attitudes. I certainly was with the chat rooms, and now the forums are becoming increasingly full of people incinuating that others are stupid or of limited intelligence....

I think I'll spend MY FREE* TIME helping someone else in future. (LIKE MY CAPS?)

Sorry Tom/Iain.

Regards

D1 ( ArtyFarty / AF )

*thats free in both senses of the word, within the context it was written.

Sorry I saw no help in your post,
it seemed more like a slam to me,
.


rather then keep this going all summer,
which I have the time for ,
free or other wise,
I'll take heed to your line about "being full of self rightous attitudes"
and while I will check myself.

I Strongly suggest others do the same,
****the remainder of my post was deleted******
As it seems the only ones allowed free speech here Are........

you fill in the rest. you've been around long enuff.

"OUT"
AR/Publknme/Mr. GreenJeans.

Chat on!

Some software bugs are a pain in the butt aren't they? They seem to have a tendancy to get people all worked up sometimes too.

This is the second time I've had to say this but worthy again of saying.

Very soon the bug will be fixed and I'm sure we'll all look on this as a distant memory and wonder why we got so pasionate about it.

Just chill and rest assured that Iain is working on getting 1.45 out the door and into your hands as soon as it's ready.

publknme, your connection problems are probably because you appear to be behind an evil impenetrable firewall/NAT.

Some NAT/firewalls are good and will play nice and allow return messages in from any IP, as long as they are aimed at the correct port. Streamer can connect to users behind these easily, even if both users are behind seperate NAT's.

Some NAT/firewalls are evil, they are very fussy about what they allow in, and at their worst will only allow return messages from an IP that has had a message sent to it.

Streamers behind an evil NAT are currently usually unreachable from behind a seperate NAT, good or evil. With a bit more trickery I could connect a good NAT to an evil one, but two evil NAT's maybe never. If a NAT really wants to strongly firewall a pc then it is likely to win.

I can see from this work PC that you are apparently behind an evil NAT. Symptoms being taking ages to tune, and the station dropping into 'recently online' when tuning.
The current bug could be making it worse at first, but once your Streamer has got it's correct IP it should all work as before.

Port forwarding will fix connection problems for broadcasters behind NAT.

He is running a single PC on a PPPOE DSL circuit. Black Ice is his firewall of choice and Streamer is set as a server application in said firewall application. Turning off the firewall helped not in his situation. This has since been fixed by your modifications/fixes to the forthcoming 1.45 version.